The great unknown

[elz]

Fanfiction.net has sorting and filtering on their fandom pages now! They may have for a while and I just hadn't noticed. But I love me some numbers.


the top 30 tv show fandoms on ff.net

1. Buffy: The Vampire Slayer (38,388)
2. Supernatural (34,899)
3. CSI (24,556)
4. Stargate: SG-1 (22,523)
5. Doctor Who (19,399)
6. NCIS (18,174)
7. House, M.D. (17,423)
8. Stargate: Atlantis (15,639)
9. Gilmore Girls (15,117)
10. Bones (12,491)
11. One Tree Hill (12,114)
12. Charmed (11,567)
13. Power Rangers (11,189)
14. Smallville (11,162)
15. Hannah Montana (10,868)
16. CSI: New York (8,911)
17. Lost (8,879)
18. Angel (8,500)
19. X-Files (8,374)
20. Grey's Anatomy (8,299)
21. Law and Order: SVU (8,078)
22. Torchwood (7,509)
23. Criminal Minds (6,487)
24. O.C. (6,415)
25. Dark Angel (6,306)
26. Heroes (6,200)
27. StarTrek: Voyager (6,196)
28. Degrassi (5,977)
29. CSI: Miami (5,694)
30. General Hospital (5,638)

the top 15 fandoms from all categories

1. Harry Potter (451,278)
2. Naruto (232,685)
3. Twilight (141,289)
4. Inuyasha (92,849)
5. Kingdom Hearts (51,513)
6. Yu-Gi-Oh (51,292)
7. Lord of the Rings (43,132)
8. Gundam Wing/AC (40,356)
9. Bleach (39,478)
10. Buffy: The Vampire Slayer (38,388)
11. Supernatural (34,899)
12. Digimon (33,255)
13. Dragon Ball Z (31,977)
14. Sailor Moon (31,851)
15. Fullmetal Alchemist (30,995)

It's easy to assume that fandoms we don't see don't exist; it's good to examine that periodically.

(I was reading the comments to a post about television shows that pass the Bechdel Test, and there is so much awesome there and so much I agree with, but Gilmore Girls isn't a show I'd tag as having a small fandom or insufficient fannish love - the TWOP GG forums were a scary place. And I know that because I was there, but there are a lot of other fandoms that exist on my periphery - do I think of Power Rangers or One Tree Hill as big fandoms? Do I even really know what Kingdom Hearts is?)

Comments

From MF

[pseudo_tsuga]

Kingdom Hearts has such a huge fandom that it seems scary to a non-participant. KH2 dominated Fandom Secrets for a long while.

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[arobynsung]

Wow. Charmed doesn't do too bad.
Interesting numbers, thanks for sharing.

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[lady_ganesh]

I wonder how much of it's due to 'historical' presence-- Inuyasha is way up there for a series that's been done for a while, but it was incredibly popular back in the day.

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[elz]

That's definitely part of it, yeah - the first Buffy story on there is from 1998.

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[lady_ganesh]

Twilight might be a contender in the long term-- only five years old and #3!

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The core ethical value that shows most in the book Seedfolks is rsepect because when they come together to grow the garden, they have to rsepect everyones ideas, personalities, cultures, races, and abilities. Without rsepect they wouldn't be able to work together growing the garden, and nobody would like each other.

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[arobynsung]

Most likely had something to do with it. There really isn't as much Charmed fic as there was around when Season 4 and Season 6 was running.

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[(Anonymous)]

The core ethical vauels I think Seed Folks deminstrates is responsibility and kindness. Because it took responsibility for Kim to take care of the seeds/ beans that she was planting in memorial of her father. Pluse the random people took responsibility to help Kim take care of the plants when they really didn't have to. Which tided into the core ethical value, kindness. Because, the random people were nice enough to help Kim with her beans which was kind of a random act of kindness. These are the reasons why Seed Folks demonstrates responsibility and kindness.

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[(Anonymous)]

I think the core ethical value that is tugoht in the book Seedfolks is respect. I think this because all of the neighbors, even though they do not know each other, they still respect the fact that they are people and should be treated as such. All the neighbors treat each other fairly and never desturb other peoples garden. This is why I think respect is the core ethical value that is tugoht in the book Seedfolks .

[zellieh]

I know it's hard to give tone via text, so I'm not trying to be rude. I agree with you that stats are fascinating, but I would like to know more of the context of these numbers so I can understand them better.

Can you tell me these numbers are for? Are they stories, authors, pageviews? Are they numbers for just today, or over time, i.e. since the first fandom thing appeared on ff.net? (Which would give older fandoms an advantage over younger ones.) And why are there two lists? Why are some fandoms on both lists?

This may be clear to people who use FF net more than I do, so I'm sorry if I'm asking obvious questions. ::g::

[elz]

Having the explanations in the cut tags doesn't work very well when something gets linked to externally, does it? *g* They're story counts - the first list is the most active TV fandoms and the second list is the most active fandoms overall.

And they're the current cumulative totals, yeah. I imagine it will be quite some time before anything knocks Harry Potter off the top of the list.

[zellieh]

"Having the explanations in the cut tags doesn't work very well when something gets linked to externally, does it? *g*" -- Aha! I see the problem now. ::g::

Thanks for explaining that! ::re-reads::

Ah, Harry Potter. I wonder if anything will ever beat that fandom?

[thefrogg]

Hee. Kind of fun to see what's way at the top, especially since I wrote what's probably the only Legends of the Fall fic in existence. (Not on ffn, but still. I checked - there is no LotF category on ffn.)

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[(Anonymous)]

I'm coming off a ltitle antagonistic in both these, but I don't mean it that way I'll skip the copywrite ramble, but I think, reading through your postings we have at our core a difference in world view.First, I don't think technology has yet to radically changed anything but music. The other arts, in my mind especially something like writing, have yet to be able to cast aside the corporate mass-market shackles the same way music has. Now, a musician doesn't need the big record companies. He can have a viable career on his own through the internet, through music downloads, through youtube.I also, have to disagree with the notion that somehow seeing more geek things in the mainstream means that geek cultural has become broader. To me, it's just the corporate structure recognizing a previously untapped market. I don't think there's acceptance there, I think there's just commodification of culture.We've had this discussion before, but I also, don't think fans of a tv show are necessarily going to drift into other things related to that tv show. The vast majority of fans of Buffy are just going to be fans of Buffy. I don't think they're going to go by the card game and the role-playing game and the comic. The few people who do, they would have found geekdom anyway. That's already who they are.Have you watched that show Big Bang Theory? It's funny, it's well acted, and it's well written. All the main characters are geeks in geekfields. I like it and you should check it out if you haven't; however, to me, it still shows geek cultural negatively and represents a lack of understanding.The characters are all defined by being a geek. They represent every stereotype. Smart. Socially awkward or out-right socially retarded. Gamers. Comic book readers. Talking in things no but there ltitle group can understand.That to me, doesn't show a broader acceptance of geekdom.-Chad